Jimbo, FSU, and the narrative (Update)

Some good  and bad of Jimbo's tenure, but most importantly facts to address some of the false narratives (mainly by pro SEC media and Jimbo) being pushed regarding Jimbo and his tenure.

Numbers show, Jimbo was able to attract ELITE talent to FSU on a yearly basis, but his results went from less than elite, to average, to below average.

Since 1992 (when 85 scholarship limit was enforced for FBS/D-I teams), FSU is...

--1 of 14 teams to win a national title.

--The second winningest program w/ a national title (77.2 win %)

--The only program to produce at least 3 national titles & 3 Heisman winners. https://t.co/9MMkF1gb4a

— Brendan Sonnone (@BSonnone) February 14, 2018

Last 2 years in ACC.  8-8
Last 3 years in ACC.  14-10
Non Winston ACC win perct. 66%
SEC record 10-2

8 years as head coach
1 National Title
3 ACC Titles
29 game win streak

	Overall Record	Overall win %	ACC Record	ACC win %	State Rival Record	State Rival %	Playoff/Bowl Record	Top 25 Record	Top 10 Record	SEC Record
Overall	83 and 23	78.30%	51 and 17	75.00%	14 and 2	87.50%	5 and 2	17 and 12	8 and 8	10 and 2
NON Winston	56 and 22	71.79%	33 and 17	66.00%	10 and 2	83.33%
Just Winston	27 and 1	96.43%	18 and 0	100.00%	4 and 0	100.00%

Year	Overall Record	ACC Record	State Rival
2017	5 and 6	3 and 5	1 and 1
2016	8 and 3	5 and 3	2 and 0
2015	10 and 3	6 and 2	2 and 0
2014	13 and 1	9 and 0	2 and 0
2013	14 and 0	9 and 0	2 and 0
2012	12 and 2	8 and 1	1 and 1
2011	9 and 4	5 and 3	2 and 0
2010	10 and 4	6 and 3	2 and 0
Avg	10.13 and 2.88	6.38 and 2.13
Avg without Winston	9 and 3.67	5.5 and 2.83

Year	247 Team Rank	247 5 Star
2017	6	4
2016	3	1
2015	3	4
2014	4	2
2013	11	2
2012	4	6
2011	2	4
2010	8	3
Avg	5.13	3.25
Total # of 5 stars		26

https://floridastate.247sports.com/Board/36/Contents/Blue-Chips--115053969

FSU is currently 57.1%

over last 4 cycles (2015-18), the Big 3 have recruited at:

FSU 63.3% (#5 in P5)
UM 44.3% (#14 in P5)
UF 40.9% (#17 in P5)

over last 5 cycles (2014-18), the Big 3 are at:

FSU 60.8% (#4 in P5)
UM 43.9% (#15 in P5)
UF 39.5% (#18 in P5)

18-11 vs Power 5 in last 29. 18-10 in last 28 vs. ACC. 5-6 overall in 2017. All with top-5 average recruiting classes. Heck of a future. Thanks for relieving FSU of a $40 mm contract. Program was falling fast.

— kevin (@kevin29455177) February 9, 2018

https://floridastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/fisher-overrated.213329/


http://thebiglead.com/2017/12/02/jimbo-fisher-is-the-most-overrated-coach-in-college-football/

Yes, Jimbo Fisher has a National title. Yes, he had a very good 8-year run at Florida State. He was handed the keys to Bobby Bowden’s dynasty in Tallahassee, and he didn’t screw it up. Let’s see how he did:
During a 2-year run with Jameis Winston, the Seminoles were a staggering 27-1. They had a lineup full of NFL players. Literally, full. The entire 11-man offense from the 2013 National title team made it to the NFL. And the 11 starters on defense did, too. That’s obscene.
How much credit does Fisher get for that? Obviously you’ve got to recruit the players. Then again, how much does the FSU brand recruit itself?
In the years in which Winston did not play, Fisher was 56-22. Winning 71% of your games is nothing to scoff at, though much of that was compiled before Clemson and Dabo Swinney became a monster.

Fisher won at Florida State. His successor – likely Willie Taggart – will will in Tallahassee, too. The real question: Will Fisher win at Texas A&M? He’s going up against Tom Herman at Texas, a marriage I think will work. Gary Patterson has turned TCU into a power. Chad Morris is quickly turning SMU into a destination. Kliff Kingsbury is attracting talent to Texas Tech.
And Oklahoma still recruits the state of Texas very well.
All of those hurdles plus the most difficult division in America, the SEC West.
I don’t see how this will work for a guy like Fisher, who has never spent a minute of his career – coaching or playing – in Texas.