http://csnbbs.com/thread-768125-page-6.html
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Saturday, January 30, 2016
Old expansion predictions
Love saving predictions, these are fun.
http://csnbbs.com/thread-768125-page-6.html
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http://csnbbs.com/thread-768125-page-6.html
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Friday, January 29, 2016
Random FSU Factoids of the Day
Bud Elliott
No NCAA program has had more players drafted to the NFL than Florida State since 1995 (via @OX_VT). http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/1/29/10870678/florida-state-has-produced-the-most-nfl-draft-picks-since-1995-per?utm_campaign=tomahawknation&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter …
Also worth noting Florida State has had the ACC's top-ranked class in all 6 seasons under Jimbo Fisher.
FSU is going for its 8th straight Top 10 signing class next week. Only Bama has signed more consecutive Top 10 classes. Via @ESPNStatsInfo
Top 20 colleges with the most player appearances in the Super Bowl
Miami 117
USC 116
UCLA 108
Penn State 104
Michigan 104
Notre Dame 101
Tennessee 96
Nebraska 91
Colorado 90
Georgia 87
Ohio State 87
LSU 81
Florida State 80
Alabama 79
California 77
Florida 75
Oklahoma 75
Stanford 73
Arizona State 72
Michigan State 72
Thursday, January 28, 2016
Arrest Factoid of the Day
Bizarre how some school's arrests get covered by ESPN and others don't....isn't it?
SEC Exposed @SEC_Exposed 3 minutes ago
SEC Exposed
“Totally unfair to characterize a whole conference by just one guy’s actions.” Oh wait... #SECLife pic.twitter.com/nTePm9keNF
Wednesday, January 27, 2016
Jim Moran School of Entrepreneurship new director
http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2016/01/26/fsu-taps-susan-fiorito-lead-jim-moran-school-entrpreneurship/79356768/
"Florida State University took the next step in establishing the groundbreaking Jim Moran School of Entrepreneurship Tuesday with its appointment of Susan Fiorito as founding director.
Fiorito, 64, brings an extensive background in higher education and hands-on retail experience to the position. She serves as chair of the Department of Entrepreneurship, Strategy and Information Systems in FSU’s College of Business. She also serves as president of the FSU Faculty Senate, which gives her a seat on FSU’s board of trustees.
“Dr. Fiorito’s academic credentials and classroom acumen combine with her business successes to make her a natural fit for this critically important role,” said Sally McRorie, provost and executive vice president for academic affairs, who appointed Fiorito. “She knows how to get things done and done well. We are very pleased that she will serve as founding director of the school that will help transform FSU into the foremost entrepreneurial university in the nation.”
In December, Florida State made national headlines when President President John Thrasher announced a $100 million donation from Jan Moran and The Jim Moran Foundation.
The donation is the largest in FSU's history and is believed to be the largest single contribution to Florida's public higher education system. It doubled last year’s $50 million donation to the University of Florida by the Herbert and Nicole Wertheim Family Foundation.
The $100 million donation will be used to create the Jim Moran School of Entrepreneurship in downtown Tallahassee, which FSU expects to launch on Aug. 8, 2018, marking the late Jim Moran's 100th birthday.
Thrasher explained that $80 million of the $100 million donation is being pledged over 20 years, yielding FSU $4.4 million a year. The remaining $20 million is bequeathed to FSU in Jan Moran's will.
The Jim Moran School of Entrepreneurship will be separate from FSU’s College of Business and will be housed at a downtown Tallahassee location FSU expects to identify soon.
Fiorito said the school will allow FSU “to put in place an inter-disciplinary program that is truly university-wide, as we are drawing on entrepreneurs throughout the campus, every college.”
FSU has 28 entrepreneurs-in-residence on campus in 12 of 16 colleges, including the arts, health, engineering, business and in STEM-related areas. Entrepreneurs affiliated with FSU also provide workshops, training sessions and other resources to businesses around the state, free of charge.
Those experts will teach part-time in the new school while continuing to teach in their respective colleges.
The Jim Moran Institute, which focuses on outreach and training, also will benefit from the gift but operate separately under Executive Director Randy Blass.
“I’m very excited,” said Fiorito, who has been the Jim Moran Professor and chair of the Department of Entrepreneurship, Strategy and Information Systems in the College of Business since April 2014.
Fiorito earned her bachelor’s degree in home economics education from FSU in 1973. She earned a master’s degree in administration and supervision of secondary schools from Barry University in 1976 and her doctorate in merchandising from Oklahoma State University in 1984.
She began her teaching career at FSU as an adjunct professor in 1990.
With the school opening in 2018, Fiorito’s work begins now in creating the new school, which includes completing the necessary paperwork to establish the school and get acceptance from trustees and the Board of Governors; meeting with deans of each college to help determine curriculum and what role those colleges will have in the new school and hiring staff and professors.
The school will offer a bachelor’s of arts or science, in entrepreneurship and begin accepting juniors for fall 2017 enrollment.
Fiorito said the goal is to accept 100 students initially as the school is up and running in 2018.
Fiorito’s background includes experience as a hands-on entrepreneur as she owned four clothing boutiques selling jeans, leather and jewelry in Atlanta between 1976-1980. She taught high-school home economics during the day and handled the retail operations at night.
After leaving Atlanta, she taught at Florida International University, earned her doctorate at Oklahoma State, and moved to Iowa, where she taught at University of Iowa for eight years.
The experience of creating her own businesses from scratch has helped give her perspective in the importance of bringing the spirit of entrepreneurship to the academic setting.
“It was many, many years ago but some things don’t change,” she said. “That kind of passion for wanting to be your own boss. I can relate to students who have that same passion. It was a great learning experience.”
Fiorito said she’s “flattered and very honored” to have the trust of Thrasher and McRorie in leading what FSU describes as the nation’s largest interdisciplinary, degree-granting school of entrepreneurship.
“I’m going to work as hard as I can to do the best job I can for Mrs. Moran, The Jim Moran Foundation and FSU,” she said.
Fiorito is married to Jack Fiorito who chairs the management department in the College of Business."
The SEC, ESPN, and the ACC
Note the below topics and the limited coverage from ESPN on them. Both are SEC related. Now remember how ESPN covered FSU and Winston's freebee crab legs or cussing on a table?
The ACC has an issue that it's own TV network protects the SEC and goes after the ACC. The ACC doesn't care or refuses to believe it, but I'm just documenting.
You would think snorting coke on a video or LSU paying off players would get exposure, but it's all about the $$$$ and Swofford getting out played again.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/shaquille-oneal-lsu-paid-me-very-well
O’Neal: “Yes they paid me very well (draws laughter). Statute of limitations is up. I can talk about it. They paid me very well. That’s right, baby, LSU.”
Shaq made the joke at a Lakers’ All-Access event on Monday hosted at the Staples Center.
You’d think it was a one-off joke, but no, O’Neal kept going, saying he’d want his son to go there because he could “probably get a house.”
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/maty-mauk-university-missouri-quarterback-suspended-over-video-reports-n504311
University of Missouri quarterback Maty Mauk has been suspended for the third time in four months after a video emerged purporting to show him snorting a line of white powder, school officials said Tuesday.
A video posted online by the "Total Frat Move" website late Monday showed a male purportedly using cocaine and called out Mauk by name. There was no immediate comment from the player and no confirmation from the college that the video did show the quarterback.
The ACC has an issue that it's own TV network protects the SEC and goes after the ACC. The ACC doesn't care or refuses to believe it, but I'm just documenting.
You would think snorting coke on a video or LSU paying off players would get exposure, but it's all about the $$$$ and Swofford getting out played again.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/shaquille-oneal-lsu-paid-me-very-well
O’Neal: “Yes they paid me very well (draws laughter). Statute of limitations is up. I can talk about it. They paid me very well. That’s right, baby, LSU.”
Shaq made the joke at a Lakers’ All-Access event on Monday hosted at the Staples Center.
You’d think it was a one-off joke, but no, O’Neal kept going, saying he’d want his son to go there because he could “probably get a house.”
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/maty-mauk-university-missouri-quarterback-suspended-over-video-reports-n504311
University of Missouri quarterback Maty Mauk has been suspended for the third time in four months after a video emerged purporting to show him snorting a line of white powder, school officials said Tuesday.
A video posted online by the "Total Frat Move" website late Monday showed a male purportedly using cocaine and called out Mauk by name. There was no immediate comment from the player and no confirmation from the college that the video did show the quarterback.
ESPN on pace to lose money in 2030
Looks like ESPN will start losing money for Disney in 2030. Interesting factoid given there is debate on when does unbundling start to affect the revenue of conferences.
This simply isn't fast enough to protect the ACC from the huge revenue gap.
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/692015130612252672
This simply isn't fast enough to protect the ACC from the huge revenue gap.
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/692015130612252672
Atlantic Equities cuts Disney to neutral. Long-term model sees ESPN becoming money-losing operation:
$DIS pic.twitter.com/uvnsviPqBf
Tuesday, January 26, 2016
Random Realignment Conference Network Info
I am not saying I believe any of the below...but FYI...
MHver3 @MHver3 2 minutes ago
MHver3 @MHver3 6 minutes ago
On the same day ESPN argued that ESPN's future was bright, USA Today released Southeastern Conference revenue figures that include the first full year of the SEC Network. The SEC produced $527.4 million in revenue, a whopping gain that reflects the blockbuster success of the new SEC Network. It's likely that each SEC school will receive in the neighborhood of $36 million a year for TV rights, that's up from just shy of $21 million a year in 2013. As the costs associated with launching the SEC Network decline and the costs the league had to pay to buy back local rights are decline as well, the SEC Network is poised to become more and more profitable each year.
If, that is, the bundle remains a viable business model. "
"The SEC's drastically undervalued deal with CBS isn't up until 2023-24, which seems like a long way away right now. Already, CBS has been a tough negotiator with the SEC over the additions of Texas A&M and Missouri. As a point of fact, the SEC gained virtually no economic value from CBS over expansion. The reason to expand from 12 to 14 wasn't about existing television deals. It was, as Outkick has been telling you for five years, was to start the SEC Network. "
"The SEC's drastically undervalued deal with CBS isn't up until 2023-24, which seems like a long way away right now. Already, CBS has been a tough negotiator with the SEC over the additions of Texas A&M and Missouri. As a point of fact, the SEC gained virtually no economic value from CBS over expansion. The reason to expand from 12 to 14 wasn't about existing television deals. It was, as Outkick has been telling you for five years, was to start the SEC Network. "
"4. I don't think the ACC Network will happen.
And if it does happen, I don't think the launch will go very well.
The SEC timed the market perfectly. The ACC Network would enter the market at a time of cord cutting and face a great deal of market resistance, much more akin to what the Pac 12 has found.
If I were in charge of the ACC I'd urge patience in the face of market uncertainty. Do you really want to fight a battle to get your network carried, risk your fans not seeing games, and not produce substantial revenue for taking these risks?"
MHver3
FSU Prez tells WVU prez Gee that B10 has been courting several ACC schools from info he has received.
FSU has not been one of the schools B10 has contacted.
ACC schools blocked a move by ESPN to make ACCN a shared network with EspnClassic. Revenue was undesirable both short and long term
MHver3
ACC end in sight? FSU talking to B12 and SEC again. No ACCN renders GOR invalid? It's about to get interesting.
"Clearly, ESPN isn't going to abandon its business model, but that's not the threat here, the threat is that consumers abandon the bundle, which kills ESPN's business model whether they abandon it or not. The scary thing is this: ESPN has nothing to do with whether or not its business model will remain viable in future years, it's going to be entirely dictated by consumer behavior. Namely, how quickly do consumers who aren't watching ESPN stop paying for it?
On the same day ESPN argued that ESPN's future was bright, USA Today released Southeastern Conference revenue figures that include the first full year of the SEC Network. The SEC produced $527.4 million in revenue, a whopping gain that reflects the blockbuster success of the new SEC Network. It's likely that each SEC school will receive in the neighborhood of $36 million a year for TV rights, that's up from just shy of $21 million a year in 2013. As the costs associated with launching the SEC Network decline and the costs the league had to pay to buy back local rights are decline as well, the SEC Network is poised to become more and more profitable each year.
If, that is, the bundle remains a viable business model. "
"The SEC's drastically undervalued deal with CBS isn't up until 2023-24, which seems like a long way away right now. Already, CBS has been a tough negotiator with the SEC over the additions of Texas A&M and Missouri. As a point of fact, the SEC gained virtually no economic value from CBS over expansion. The reason to expand from 12 to 14 wasn't about existing television deals. It was, as Outkick has been telling you for five years, was to start the SEC Network. "
"The SEC's drastically undervalued deal with CBS isn't up until 2023-24, which seems like a long way away right now. Already, CBS has been a tough negotiator with the SEC over the additions of Texas A&M and Missouri. As a point of fact, the SEC gained virtually no economic value from CBS over expansion. The reason to expand from 12 to 14 wasn't about existing television deals. It was, as Outkick has been telling you for five years, was to start the SEC Network. "
"4. I don't think the ACC Network will happen.
And if it does happen, I don't think the launch will go very well.
The SEC timed the market perfectly. The ACC Network would enter the market at a time of cord cutting and face a great deal of market resistance, much more akin to what the Pac 12 has found.
If I were in charge of the ACC I'd urge patience in the face of market uncertainty. Do you really want to fight a battle to get your network carried, risk your fans not seeing games, and not produce substantial revenue for taking these risks?"
Monday, January 25, 2016
Wes Durham "Voice of the ACC" on the ACC Network
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/colleges/audio/15254519/
*Shock of SEC's recent tax document released and their revenue 60% increase.
*There will be NO ACC NETWORK.
*No Network is a huge recruiting disadvantage and coaches will have an issue.
*ACC must have an answer on network in 'very near future.'
*Believes ESPN pays $3 Million per team to not have a network ($45 Million to ACC).
*Major issue is prestige and exposure that networks bring.
*FSU and Clemson will make the most noise (ACC media was very pissy about this).
*Believes conferences will head to 16 teams (NO explanation of how this helps the ACC.....of course, logic was ignored).
*Believes no network will hasten expansion. 2020 could be year when playoff is expanded.
*Football is key (again, ACC folks were annoyed).
*Coaches are going to howl about lack of network and impact on recruiting is real.
*No real talk about Notre Dame......because they aren't joining.
*The rest is basketball.
Power Two and the Slightly-Less-Powerful Three
The future of college football.....
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/big-12-expansion-title-game-texas-longhorns-oklahoma-sooners-iowa-byu-clemson-signing-day-012016
"There may be five major conferences as determined on the football field, but in the larger industry of college athletics, we will soon have the Power Two and the Slightly-Less-Powerful Three. Simply put, the SEC and Big Ten are distancing themselves from everybody else. According to USA Today, the SEC earned a staggering $527.4 million in the 2015 fiscal year, its first with both SEC Network and College Football Playoff revenue. That's up 60 percent from just a year earlier. The Big Ten distributed $448 million last school year, and that number should rise considerably with its upcoming TV contract. The Big 12, by contrast, earned less than half that SEC number, though on par with the ACC and Pac-12."
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/big-12-expansion-title-game-texas-longhorns-oklahoma-sooners-iowa-byu-clemson-signing-day-012016
"There may be five major conferences as determined on the football field, but in the larger industry of college athletics, we will soon have the Power Two and the Slightly-Less-Powerful Three. Simply put, the SEC and Big Ten are distancing themselves from everybody else. According to USA Today, the SEC earned a staggering $527.4 million in the 2015 fiscal year, its first with both SEC Network and College Football Playoff revenue. That's up 60 percent from just a year earlier. The Big Ten distributed $448 million last school year, and that number should rise considerably with its upcoming TV contract. The Big 12, by contrast, earned less than half that SEC number, though on par with the ACC and Pac-12."
Sunday, January 24, 2016
FSU Shoe Contract Info
http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/blog/threads_and_laces/2014/08/nike-adidas-under-armour-ncaa-deals.html
http://www.theterritory.org/phorum/read.php?5,480614,480614#msg-480614
"Will get $6.5 million a year from Adidas, while we get what from that Oregon Shoe Company? $3.5 million?
Sheeesh."
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13260992/michigan-11-year-deal-nike-worth-169m
"That works out to an average of $11.26 million a year over the 15 years. When breaking it down by year, it is actually not bigger than the 10-year deal Notre Dame signed with Under Armour last year, a source with knowledge of that deal told ESPN.com.
At $8.2 million a year in cash and equipment, Michigan's current deal with Adidas, which comes to an end after the 2016 spring season, was the most lucrative among public schools in the country."
https://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1636073
" Florida State renegotiated its apparel contract with NIKE, signing a deal worth roughly $50 million over 10 years. Warchant.com obtained that contract through an open records request, showing how FSU signed a good deal at the time - but it may quickly be outstripped by more lucrative contracts at other schools. The extension, signed June 27 of last year, stipulates that NIKE will provide FSU an average of 1.45 million in cash each year and 2.9 million in supplied product each year for five years, with a potential extension through 2022-2023"
http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/blog/threads_and_laces/2014/12/compare-the-nike-contracts-of-the-four-college.html
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2049223-florida-state-reportedly-extended-contract-with-nike-in-2013
"NIKE will provide FSU an average of 1.45 million in cash each year and 2.9 million in supplied product each year for five years, with a potential extension through 2022-2023"
Expansion Prediction
No, I don't believe it, but I love to document predictions for future reference.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1 minute ago
Christopher Lambert
Finally. I'm making a prediction for 2025. The B12 adds 6: Arizona, Colorado & BYU in the west. FSU, Clemson & Miami in the east.
ESPN....NC State commit headline "Straight cash"
This is the press Swofford gives you ACC......love you how see nothing wrong with it.
Meanwhile, we all know SEC recruiting is clean as a whistle....right ESPN?
College GameDayVerified account @CollegeGameDay 7 hours ago
Meanwhile, we all know SEC recruiting is clean as a whistle....right ESPN?
College GameDayVerified account
Straight cash, homie. Randy Moss' son Thaddeus committed to NC State. http://es.pn/1ZKTlWn
Friday, January 22, 2016
Stadium Rankings
http://www.theterritory.org/phorum/read.php?5,480170
[www.stadiumjourney.com]
I saw this and thought it would be interesting. (or give everybody something to moan about)
I've got a few questions about the rankings...especially inside the ACC...Syracuse being ranked over UNC I don't understand and NC St
over Clemson I was stunned.
I thought they judged us fairly. We were #10. 1 spot above UF at 11. And roughly the driving distance from Tally to Sun Life over Miami.
I totaled up each Power 5 league. Added in where each conf member ranked and divided by the total number in each conf to get an average
ranking. #1 Conf will be no surprise. #2 Conf was a surprise to me...
Anyway, here are the averages...
N. Dame 1
SEC 36.5
Pac12 43.6
Big10 44.8
Big12 46.1
ACC 58.6
Thursday, January 21, 2016
ESPN might have trouble going it alone
https://beta.finance.yahoo.com/news/report-shows-espn-trouble-2-180012377.html
"ESPN might have trouble going it alone.
According to a recent consumer survey conducted by the marketing firm Civic Science and highlighted in a note by BTIG, more than half of cable subscribers would be happy to drop ESPN to save $8 a month.
Additionally, only 6% of the survey's respondents said they would be willing to pay $20 a month for a Netflix-like ESPN offering. Reports have indicated ESPN would need to charge $30 for a similar bundle for it to make economic sense.
In a note released Wednesday morning, BTIG's Rich Greenfield said the results of this survey highlighted ESPN's two major issues:
- ESPN probably won't be able to go "over-the-top" with a Netflix-style offering in an economical way.
- ESPN is "overearning" right now.
Last summer, as the concerns about cable subscribers and the value of media companies came into focus, we noted that a Wall Street Journal report cited analysts who estimated that ESPN would need to charge $30 for an over-the-top offering that would bring its parent company Disney the same amount of money its channels currently do.
And so even by shaving $10 off this estimate, only 6% of survey respondents would subscribe at $20 a month. Eighty-five percent of respondents ruled out the possibility of paying for this offering; 9% were undecided.
Greenfield estimates that there are about 115 million TV households in the US — which is probably an aggressive estimate — and so being very generous to ESPN and assuming the 9% of undecided respondents did roll over and get ESPN, you're looking at a 15% penetration rate for ESPN, or roughly 17.5 million subscribers.
This would be down from about 92 million.
And with 15% of households getting ESPN at $20 a month, revenue for the network totals $4.1 billion a year. Right now, ESPN revenue is a touch under $9 billion.
(Michelle McLoughlin/REUTERS) ESPN president John Skipper.
Taking ESPN out of the cable bundle and bringing it right to consumers, then, cuts revenue by more than half.
Taking ESPN out of the cable bundle and bringing it right to consumers, then, cuts revenue by more than half.
ESPN, however, seems to be anticipating that leaner days are either here or coming, as the company laid off about 300 employees last fall.
This brings us to Greenfield's second point, which is at the heart of why he's bearish on Disney in general: ESPN is making more than the market would otherwise command.
Essentially, Greenfield's view is that ESPN's roughly $9 billion in annual revenue is largely a vestige of old cable agreements that require not only that ESPN be included in most bundles but that ESPN charge cable providers a significantly higher price than peers.
Recent estimates have ESPN charging providers more than $6 a subscriber to carry the network. The next-highest cable networks, for example, command charges of less than $1.50 a month.
So with ESPN getting something like four times as much per cable subscriber as competitors, the concept of overearning basically says the market would not tolerate that under different circumstances.
Such as, for example, largely unbundled cable content.
Overall, then, the situation does not look good for ESPN, with Greenfield writing:
The math for a direct-to-consumer offering for a basic cable network does not work, especially for channel(s) with very high monthly fees embedded within the current MVPD bundle. Disney cannot take ESPN direct-to-consumer and they know it, whether they admit that publicly or not. Furthermore, if the multichannel video bundle frays faster than expected and the TV ad market continues to weaken, ESPN's future growth prospects are dim, at best.
And all of this, really, shows how the twin stories that seem to be dogging ESPN are very much not going away.
Broadly, the entire cable complex isn't sure what to make of Netflix, HBO, and the continuing fracture of what was once a cohesive cable package. But when reports surface that CBS/Viacom are considering making the CW network — which is, all things considered, a fairly middling cable station — a standalone offering, it's clear that things are changing in a major way.
But as an ESPN-specific issue, there is a concern in the market that the network may have paid too much to acquire live sports rights like the College Football Playoff.
Pittsburgh AD says ACC Network on the Horizon.
I only post this because every 12 months or so the ACC loves to pretend all is well when it comes to pretend revenue coming....while the SEC announces actual revenue.
So here is the latest pretend "we are studying things"....which the ACC has been studying for almost 10 years now.
http://allsportsdiscussion.com/2016/01/20/pittsburgh-ad-says-acc-network-on-the-horizon/
With news of the SEC’s whopping $457 million conference member distribution for the 2014-2015 year, the pressure increases on John Swofford and the ACC to find an additional revenue generator for it’s member schools.
Now without getting into the depth of ESPN’s woes, cord cutting, etc, conference networks are still making money. The SEC and Big 10 networks are producing $5-$8 Million a year, and even the struggling Pac 12 network provides about $1 million per school. The much maligned Longhorn Network is expected to turn a profit in 2016.
Wednesday some interesting news came from Pittsburgh AD Scott Barnes regarding a possible ACC network during a “town hall” meeting with Pittsburgh fans.
On the possibility of expanding the ACC Network
ACC television is a work in progress, progress is being made. It’s on the horizon. I can’t get into the details of where that sits other than to say I think we all feel like progress is being made. It’s an interesting topic because what you need is a lot of cuts, cutting back with programming and whatnot, but at the end of the day, an organization like ESPN wants more than anything a chance to generate revenue, and the ACC is a great opportunity to generate revenue. We’ll ultimately get there in our TV contract, and I’m confident in that.
Now skeptics will say, oh just more of the same. Vague comments of progress, if it was going to happen it would have already happened. I probably wouldn’t be able to convince a skeptic just based on these comments, but let me ask you this.
Why make those comments if you are the Pittsburgh AD? Barnes responsibility is to Pittsburgh and it’s fans first, not the ACC. If Barnes is unhappy with the ACC ala the Oklahoma’s AD recent Big 12 rants, a public forum gave him that chance, to either criticize the ACC or say nothing. Barnes did neither. He has no reason to say anything positive about an ACC Network if he didn’t feel that something was in works.
I’ll let you judge for yourself if what Barnes says is encouraging. I think it is.
Wednesday, January 20, 2016
FSU Recruiting Factoids
Jared Shanker
FSU and Bama the only two schools to finish top three in 4 of last 5 years. Will that continue? Both out as of now https://twitter.com/HamiltonESPN/status/689833371522850816 …
How much money did the SEC Network Make?
Greg Flugaur
http://gridironnow.com/how-much-money-did-sec-network-make/ …
Chadd Scott breaks SECN $ all down=6.8mil per school.
But what some people miss is the EXPOSURE Conf Net gives.
"Round that figure up to $102M for simplicity’s sake, divide it by 15 – 14 member institutions plus a share that goes to the conference office – and you are left with what I figure, and have had confirmed to me, is a reasonably accurate estimate of a $6.8M per member payout as a direct result of the SEC Network."
CFB Arrest Metrics
Mike Rosenberg
Two college football teams - Kansas & Washington State - have more arrests than wins in last 5 years (via @cdjarrell) pic.twitter.com/tlXtC8KSvG
Whats going on with the ACC?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/41u81q/whats_going_on_with_the_acc/
"The first takeaway is that that the B1G showed a willingness to completely screw over the ACC. The second takeaway is that the B1G demonstrated the ability to work with the Big 12 to alleviate their concerns, but did not extend a similar hand to help the ACC. The last takeaway is that the B1G displayed an enormous show of power by taking what had previously been near unanimous support regarding total deregulation, and channeling that support into their own voting block against.
The B1G not only treated the ACC with complete brutality. They did it regarding an issue that was key to the ACC’s stability and long-term survival. They did it without attempting to make a more reasonable amendment that would prevent abuse, while still allowing the ACC to host a “no divisions” CCG. We normally don’t see tactics like these deployed between two power conferences unless one considers the other an enemy, or the existence of a feud. So somewhere down the line the ACC must have done something that enraged the Big Ten.
Most people assume that the two biggest geopolitical rivals in the P5 are the ACC and Big 12 because they are the two weakest conferences in a system that is better tailored to having only four power conferences. While this is true, the perception of weakness is a mutually shared issue. This gives the two conferences overlapping interests. The CCG collaboration we have seen between the two conferences isn’t the first time we have seen them work together. Another example is the assistance the Big 12 gave the ACC in framing a Grant of Rights. These two conferences are both focused on survival and there is only one territory (West Virginia) where the two conference footprints overlap.
Meanwhile the B1G and the ACC have been in an intense battle for control of the Northeast. Both of these conferences have made multiple expansions of Northeast schools. The two conferences have been trying to outdo each other by building a stronger Northeast presence or brand. The crown jewel of the Northeast in this regard is the Big East Basketball Tournament (BET). "
"The ACC and B1G ended up making special deals with the two non-FBS conferences for the right to play at those arenas. This shows the extent that these conferences are willing to go in order to build a strong Northeast presence and to check the moves of each other. This came on top of the B1G opening a second conference office in Manhattan.
This could be the reason behind the B1G’s actions, retaliation for challenging their hold on the Northeast. It could also be retaliation for other actions as well such as the ACC being an opponent of satellite camps. Perhaps it is retaliation for allowing Notre Dame to join their conference as a non-football member.
There could also be more strategic forces at play here as well. Perhaps the B1G feels that the ACC’s intentions were with malice and they were planning on tailoring their system to guarantee Florida State and/or Clemson an easy conference schedule. It could also be a sneaky way to incorporate Notre Dame as a full football member without disrupting their other scheduling obligations with Navy, USC, and Stanford. Or maybe the Big Ten, which has historically been the most traditionalist of the P5, is afraid of a “no-divisions” setup so much that they don’t want to allow any conference implement it right now.
Finally, and this is the thought that should keep ACC fans up at night, what if Maryland isn’t the only ACC school the B1G is targeting and they are doing this as an attempt to destabilize the ACC?
It looks an awful lot like the B1G is the only culprit here, but it can not be omitted that the SEC was very quick to jump on board with the B1G. The reason I include the SEC is because this isn’t the first time the SEC has spurned the ACC. The SEC teamed up with the Big 12 to create a New Year’s Day bowl to rival the Rose Bowl. This left the ACC as the only P5 conference without such a bowl.
It is very easy to inject the same arguments I used with the Big Ten as to why the SEC considers the ACC an enemy. No two P5 conferences have more overlap in their conference footprint than the SEC and ACC. The SEC also has a history of chasing ACC schools. One of the reported SEC targets during the 2010-2013 conference realignment was Virginia Tech (VT).
What makes the reported interest in VT so compelling is that there is a strong belief that the SEC, a conference that is in recent years has been doing their best to copy the B1G, is putting a larger focus on academics in realignment than what was previously thought. For me personally, I find it hard to believe that the SEC would offer VT without first approaching Virginia, North Carolina, or possibly Duke as well a little far fetched which makes the “SEC academics” theory believable.
If you give the SEC the same conference realignment motives as the B1G in voting against total deregulation, it establishes a motive for the vote of every P5 conference (the Pac-12 abstained and was the only FBS conference to do so).
The best-case scenario for the ACC is that the conference is simply terrible at making friends. This statement is not meant as a joke. It follows a repeat pattern where the Big 12 constantly benefits from outside support, while the ACC is left to fend for itself.
One of the rumors regarding how the Big 12 managed to stay together following the loss of Colorado and Nebraska was “an influential group of outsiders” that was said to include fellow Power Conference administrators. The Big 12 also enjoyed generous support from the TV executives to keep the conference stable whereas the TV executives can hardly be portrayed as helpful to the stability of the ACC. On top of that the ACC more often than not, seems to find themselves politically isolated from the rest of the P5, whereas the other P5 conferences have been quick to come to the aid of the Big 12.
So whether the CCG vote has to do with conference realignment, or having no friends, the ACC’s decision to propose an amendment to ban satellite camps (which is a direct shot at the B1G) certainly doesn’t dispel the notion that there is a feud between the two conferences.
TLDR: The ACC is in a politically vulnerable situation right now. They are in one of the following predicaments: A full scale feud with the Big Ten, they literally have no friends, or the Big Ten or SEC are trying to destabilize them."
Monday, January 18, 2016
ACC Football Rankings
http://csnbbs.com/thread-766447-page-5.html
Whenever I see a thread like this, I am aware that on other forums there are similar threads by and about all the other P5 conferences. But we can't lose sight of one important, and immutable, fact. Top 25 rankings are a zero sum game. For any one conference to improve its average performance, another conference must get worse. I am certain that none of them see themselves in the "get worse" group.
Another reality is that there are a lot more schools that believe they either are, or should be, perennial Top 25 teams than there are places in the Top 25 to accommodate them. And as a practical matter for the P5, there will generally be non-P5 teams taking some spots (even if those spots are taken by schools that are only ranked thanks to political correctness combined with easier schedules (and thus fewer losses - the biggest factor in being ranked).
Historically, the P5s have commanded about 22 rankings per year, and all other schools have been ranked 3 times a year. By my count, there are probably 32-35 P5 schools that would be on most lists of "should be" perennial Top 25s. Something's got to give.
I have been tracking and analyzing rankings since the start of the BCS era. Prior to this season, I had compiled some data on the previous decade or so, and the results were anything but surprising. They do, however, speak directly to some of the points made in this thread.
When I looked at the average final BCS rank, the first thing I looked at was the average rank of each conference's highest ranked team over that time frame. This isn't the rank of any one team over that time. Rather, if Alabama is the highest ranked team one year and Auburn is the next, I just averaged their rank. The data is, again, no surprise:
SEC....1.4
B12....3.6
PAC....4.1
B1G....7.3
ACC....9.1
Next, I took the average rank of each league's second highest ranked team. Similar results.
SEC....4.6
B12....7.1
PAC....8.7
B1G..10.4
ACC..15.1
Then, I looked at not the average but the actual rank of each conference's second highest ranked team. There's a pattern here.
SEC....2
B12....3
PAC....4
B1G....6
ACC...11
That is to say, during the time of the study, the ACC never had a second team ranked in the Top 10 in any single year.
Finally, I looked at the lowest rank achieved by each league's best team over the whole period. Same story.
SEC....2
B12....6
PAC....7
B1G...12
ACC...14
The first three conferences never failed to have at least one team ranked in the Top 10. The B1G only failed once. The ACC had four seasons without a single Top 10 team.
So this past year, you would have to say we did pretty good, at least at the top. Where we are still lagging is the total number of top 25 teams. If we start getting five consistently, which conference is going to get weaker?
Another reality is that there are a lot more schools that believe they either are, or should be, perennial Top 25 teams than there are places in the Top 25 to accommodate them. And as a practical matter for the P5, there will generally be non-P5 teams taking some spots (even if those spots are taken by schools that are only ranked thanks to political correctness combined with easier schedules (and thus fewer losses - the biggest factor in being ranked).
Historically, the P5s have commanded about 22 rankings per year, and all other schools have been ranked 3 times a year. By my count, there are probably 32-35 P5 schools that would be on most lists of "should be" perennial Top 25s. Something's got to give.
I have been tracking and analyzing rankings since the start of the BCS era. Prior to this season, I had compiled some data on the previous decade or so, and the results were anything but surprising. They do, however, speak directly to some of the points made in this thread.
When I looked at the average final BCS rank, the first thing I looked at was the average rank of each conference's highest ranked team over that time frame. This isn't the rank of any one team over that time. Rather, if Alabama is the highest ranked team one year and Auburn is the next, I just averaged their rank. The data is, again, no surprise:
SEC....1.4
B12....3.6
PAC....4.1
B1G....7.3
ACC....9.1
Next, I took the average rank of each league's second highest ranked team. Similar results.
SEC....4.6
B12....7.1
PAC....8.7
B1G..10.4
ACC..15.1
Then, I looked at not the average but the actual rank of each conference's second highest ranked team. There's a pattern here.
SEC....2
B12....3
PAC....4
B1G....6
ACC...11
That is to say, during the time of the study, the ACC never had a second team ranked in the Top 10 in any single year.
Finally, I looked at the lowest rank achieved by each league's best team over the whole period. Same story.
SEC....2
B12....6
PAC....7
B1G...12
ACC...14
The first three conferences never failed to have at least one team ranked in the Top 10. The B1G only failed once. The ACC had four seasons without a single Top 10 team.
So this past year, you would have to say we did pretty good, at least at the top. Where we are still lagging is the total number of top 25 teams. If we start getting five consistently, which conference is going to get weaker?
ACC Fan Predictions on ACC Network
Always like to save this to look back (This are a year old already).
http://csnbbs.com/thread-732408-page-5.html
Dr. Isaly von Yinzer
03-26-2015
"A lot of you people hate Miko but at least he is doing his rumormongering ironically. He is making fun of you lunatics.
The ACC network is definitely going to happen. It is not probably going to happen, it is definitely going to happen and could happen as early as 2016 or 2017.
The reason why Georgia Tech, Florida State and everyone else stayed in the ACC is because they saw the financials and demographic trends and realized that it was in their long-term economic interests to do so.
After all that we have learned and seen over the last few years, for anyone to continue to give the Dude of West Virginia credibility – on the same level as Frank no less – is almost breathtaking in it's sheer stupidity. If I didn't know this board better, I would think that it was sarcastic. "
http://csnbbs.com/thread-732408-page-13.html
Rabbit_in_Red (Louisville Fan)
4-24-2015
"Furthermore, an ACC Network's going to happen. The only people that can't seem to grasp that post on this board. "
http://csnbbs.com/thread-732408-page-5.html
Dr. Isaly von Yinzer
03-26-2015
"A lot of you people hate Miko but at least he is doing his rumormongering ironically. He is making fun of you lunatics.
The ACC network is definitely going to happen. It is not probably going to happen, it is definitely going to happen and could happen as early as 2016 or 2017.
The reason why Georgia Tech, Florida State and everyone else stayed in the ACC is because they saw the financials and demographic trends and realized that it was in their long-term economic interests to do so.
After all that we have learned and seen over the last few years, for anyone to continue to give the Dude of West Virginia credibility – on the same level as Frank no less – is almost breathtaking in it's sheer stupidity. If I didn't know this board better, I would think that it was sarcastic. "
http://csnbbs.com/thread-732408-page-13.html
Rabbit_in_Red (Louisville Fan)
4-24-2015
"Furthermore, an ACC Network's going to happen. The only people that can't seem to grasp that post on this board. "
ACC Coaches Salary Factoid
Danny Kanell @dannykanell 2 minutes ago
Wonder why the SEC is so good?? It's all about the Benjamins.. Top 50 assistant coach salaries:
SEC- 21
ACC-8
Big 10-8
Big 12-6
Pac 12-1
Sunday, January 17, 2016
FSU record Factoid
Jason Staples
Last 4 seasons (2012–2015):
OSU: 50-4
Bama 50-6
FSU: 49-6
Clem 46-8
Oregon 45-9
MSU 43-11
Stan 43-12
son Staples
Last 3 seasons (2013–2015):
OSU: 38-4
FSU 37-4
Bama 37-5
MSU 36-5
Clem 35-6
Baylor 32-7
Oregon 33-8
Bama 72-10
Ore 69-12
OSU 68-12
FSU 68-14
Stan 66-15
Boise 64-15
Mich St 65-16
OU 62-17
LSU 61-17
NIU 65-19
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