Here is one viewpoint that makes a lot of sense.
Future of COE?
pauldirac
4/6/2014
"Of course FSU can do it. All we need is some general
classroom space for engineering this could happen on main campus (for core
undergrad classes) or perhaps at Innovation Park. A new engineering school
building can probably be built by FSU for well less than $20 million.
I
suspect that FSU would radically restructure the present department structure in
engineering to fit its strategic strengths.
We already have strong research
facilities and labs right there for CAPs, the Mag Lab (Superconductivity group),
Materials Science, and Aerespace Engineering. Many of the faculty in
engineering that FSU would need offices for already have labs in those
buildings. I assume FSU would get at least 50-60 of the faculty, and FSU is
already manking some new hires in materials engineering, energy and aerospace
anyway. FSU would probably eliminate computer engineering and would also begin
to invest a little more in biomedical engineering. Perhaps there is a new
building for this down the road, or these faculty would go into the medical
research building. I agree that this is a great chance for FSU to raise money
from alumni and especially industry.
It's a great opportunity for FAMU
too. I assume FAMU would also get the old engineering building complex, a
substantial number of the faculty (as many as 1/3 of them, or 30), and would get
a written understanding from FSU to collaborate in some research programs. FAMU
could focus on ag engineering and computer engineering, along with civil. It
would be smart for FSU and FAMU to agree to collaborate on some of the core
classes. There is nothing about a split that would preclude collaboration where
it is beneficial to both schools, if both FSU and FAMU have a positive
attitude.
This is win-win if FSU and FAMU are willing to be open minded
and to collaborate in a plan going forward. "
Poor performance in research
NoleOne
4/6/2014
"The FAMU/FSU College of Engineering currently has annual research expenditures
of $11 million. Annual research expenditures peaked in '04 at around $19
million.
http://www.eng.fsu.edu/prospective/graduate/research_centers.html
http://www.eng.fsu.edu/about/milestones.html
By
comparison, NC State engineering has $154 million in annual research
expenditures.
http://www.eng.fsu.edu/about/milestones.html
Georgia
Tech? $689 million.
UF? $63 million.
Even UCF has annual research
expenditures of $22 million.
http://cecs.ucf.edu/facts.php
Whether
you like it or not, that's a complete and total failure by the FAMU/FSU College
of Engineering. Those are facts."
"One big reason why FSU supports splitting the Engineering School: Poor
performance in the rankings.
Did you know that the FAMU/FSU College of
Engineering is ranked #102 in the U.S. News rankings? That's simply
unacceptable for a premier research institution. If FSU's primary goal is to
become an elite academic institution, then it can never reach its goal being
anchored down by a badly ranked engineering school run by FAMU. That's
reality.
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/florida-am-university-florida-state-university-02215"
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