Thursday, August 4, 2016

Support Staff

IMHO, you can bet $$$ this is one of the biggest issues the ACC is behind on.  No statistics, but this is where the arms race is currently focused.

FSU is painted positively here, but I know FSU has about 1/3 of the staff Bama does.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17164115/alabama-crimson-tide-nick-saban-lead-revolution-size-college-football-coaching-staffs


"A Florida support staff member paces near the 50-yard line, staring across the field of the Georgia Dome. It's December and the SEC Championship Game will begin in an hour -- No. 18 Florida vs. No. 2 Alabama. Players from both teams warm up, yet it's not an athlete who has this young, up-and-coming coach's attention. He looks over at the opposing sideline and marvels at the size of the crimson-clad throng of coaches at Nick Saban's beck and call.
Florida is outnumbered, again.
It's no less shocking than a week earlier, he says, when he was struck by the disparity in the number of coaches when they hosted Florida State to end the regular season. But instead of Saban, it was former Saban assistant Jimbo Fisher who had a king-sized support staff at his disposal, a flood of graduate assistants, analysts, quality control and player personnel-types.
Of course they weren't the reason Florida lost to its in-state rival by three touchdowns -- only the head coach and nine assistant coaches participate in the execution of the game -- but there was no escaping this staffer's belief that manpower had something to do with each program's standing. They'd go on to lose to Alabama, too, and afterward the thought of doing more with less felt antiquated and impractical.
It's wild to think about, a behemoth like Florida being behind anyone in terms of resources, but there's some truth to it. There's an arms race taking place in college football that has even the most distinguished of programs feeling as if they're a step behind. And you can thank Saban for not just being ahead of the curve, but throwing the first curve to begin with.
Fast-forward four months and Jim McElwain is in his office on the Florida campus, slouched in a chair with his feet resting on a coffee table. He explains why he made expanding the support staff a priority when he was hired late in 2014, but he's not bullish on their current numbers. "We're far from having as many as a lot of people have," he says.
Not counting nine assistant coaches, there are 20 people listed in the staff directory, including directors of football administration, player personnel, player development and external communication. There are three graduate assistants, three quality control coaches and three program assistants. One such program assistant -- a role that typically goes to coaches breaking into the profession -- is Bret Ingalls, who was hired this offseason after spending the past seven years as a running back and offensive line coach for the New Orleans Saints."

"The desire for more man power is met by seemingly unlimited budgets. There's no such thing as being over-qualified anymore. These days you can't find a perennial top-25 program without a fully stocked staff, while traditionally second-tier programs are pushing to expand theirs. Tom Herman, who made his name as offensive coordinator at Ohio State before becoming head coach at Houston, said if the budget were there, "I'd take an army.""

5 comments:

  1. If you can get your hands on it, I'd like to see what the various staffers actually do (e.g. break down film, plan diets, weigth trainers, etc.)

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  2. There should be a limit on the number of these type of personnel. Whether it's 25 or 105, I don't know. The schools can decide. But if you're in a P5 conference you MUST fill the minimum positions allowed. And if you're Wake (or whomever) and can't afford it or aren't interested in playing the arms race game, then leave. Go to the AAC.

    The same thing applies to basketball though. Is FSU spending enough to actually be competitive in basketball? How many support personnel does FSU have compared to UNC, Duke, UL, etc? We can spend $100M on football facilities in the last 4 years and compete staff/salary-wise with almost any school, but can't spend $20M to expand the size of our basketball practice facility?

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    1. Agree re: support staff.

      Not sure re: bball. VERY few schools are wealthy enough to be great at both sports. FSU is EASILY the poorest school of the upper tier schools. Most have billions in their endowments and MUCH wealthier donor base. FSU simply had to choose. When 80% of revenue is in football. That choice is easy.

      Two points...1 I am a bball season tix holder, so I do care about the sport at FSU. 2 FSU has spent more than most know in bball....I could document it (and have on this blog). But I agree with you....not enough needed to be competitive.

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  3. I didn't say FSU had to be great at basketball. I said they have to spend at levels that allow them to be better and more competitive than they are. The comparison I was making was to that of the cheap ACC football schools. You've posted comments of Addazio saying he wanted the number of support staff limited because BC can't afford it. That's cheap. There *should* be a limit, but it should be a relatively high number. And it should be mandatory that all ACC schools meet that level. If they cannot or will not, they should leave the conference. But that same practice should hold for basketball, too. And if it were in place for basketball, then I feel confident that FSU is choosing to go cheap.

    Billion-dollar endowments don't matter when most of it's for undergrad science scholarships or endowed professorship chairs, etc. I would love to have FSU's athletic scholarships more fully endowed, but either individual boosters don't find that as good of an investment as a new building/practice facility, or the actual Boosters organization doesn't. To be fair, Jack Nicklaus just started an athletic scholarship for tight ends in Nick O'Leary's honor. So there's that.

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