2013 Seminoles NFL

 

How quickly people forget how talented this Florida state team was pic.twitter.com/TVRUQQ8uBa

— CFBTalkDaily (@CFBTalkDaily) May 17, 2023

FSU Logo History

 

Fight in the comments below pic.twitter.com/YEFh7mJaTW

— Barstool FSU (@FSU_Barstool) May 23, 2023

Season ticket sales update

 

Season ticket sales update

31,348 SEASON TICKETS
IN MAIN STANDS, CLUB & SUITES
COMPARED TO 26,533 THIS TIME LAST YEAR AND FINISHED AT 28,337.


They sold out of season tickets in 2014 with 45,000. Not sure what it is now with the champions club and if they count those two separate. If so then I’d expect the grand stands to probably be around mid to high 30’s since almost 10k seats were removed to build the CC in 2015


And every school accounts for season tickets differently. Some schools sell season tickets to students and those numbers are included. So, in a sense, if you consider that FSU's student tickets are always accounted for and used as a per-game lottery system to claim, you can add 16,000 to our season ticket number to make it look like it's more. So, technically FSU could report that it has sold 46,000+ season tickets.

A major leadership change in the works for FSU-headquartered National MagLab

 

A major leadership change in the works for FSU-headquartered National MagLab

After heading the Florida State University-headquartered National High Magnetic Field Laboratory for nearly two decades, Greg Boebinger is stepping down from his position as the MagLab’s director.

“I’ve never done this before, so after 19 years it certainly is a mixed feeling,” Boebinger told the Tallahassee Democrat.

As Boebinger prepares to return to the faculty over the summer, the university is launching a national search to choose his replacement, where FAMU-FSU College of Engineering Dean Suvranu De will serve as chair of the 14-person search committee.

His departure comes as the university and local economic leaders try to position Tallahassee as the "Magnetic Capital of the World," which could draw industries in a cutting edge industry to a city that has worked for years to diversify its economy beyond state government.

The National MagLab — which receives funding from the National Science Foundation and the state of Florida — hosts researchers from universities like the University of Florida as well as businesses and labs around the world, using unique high field magnets and instruments to further research and make discoveries.

Under Boebinger’s additional role of being the principal investigator of the MagLab’s core funding grant, it has grown by 67 percent, according to a university release.

The laboratory has also had over 8,400 publications and contributed to over 1,200 master’s or doctoral theses during Boebinger's tenure as director.

In addition, Boebinger is a member of the National Academy of Sciences for his career in physics and is also a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, American Physical Society and the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

P5 conference to see how many conference games each conference drew for 4 million viewers or more

 

Since 2012, college football viewership has already been "operating" in a P2 world. The SEC and Big Ten dominate college football for conference games that draw 4 million viewers or more.

THAT is why the Big Ten and SEC get paid the big dollars and nobody else

As part of the… pic.twitter.com/tdetNQ76L2

— Big Ten information. College football fan (@Genetics56) May 29, 2023

Since 2012, college football viewership has already been "operating" in a P2 world. The SEC and Big Ten dominate college football for conference games that draw 4 million viewers or more. THAT is why the Big Ten and SEC get paid the big dollars and nobody else As part of the university evaluations study that I am doing, I ran the data for all conference games for each P5 conference to see how many conference games each conference drew for 4 million viewers or more. Final results: SEC: 128 Big Ten: 120 ACC: 24 Big 12: 24 Pac 12: 17 The Pac-12, without USC, they don't reach double digits for games that reach 4 million viewers or more. If you want to know why the Pac-12 can't get a tv deal done, that is why. That is your answer. For the ACC, I pulled each conference game that drew 4 million viewers or more to see how often each ACC team appears in a conference game that draws in that viewership number. The results: Georgia Tech: 1 Virginia Tech: 1 Clemson: 13 Florida State: 15 Miami: 5 Pitt: 3 Syracuse: 5 BC: 1 NC State: 3 Lou: 1 UNC: 1 No other ACC teams. If you are wondering how many games for BC, Syra, and others that were involved in a game with 4 million viewers or more that were games against Florida State and Clemson, most of them were. I did not include ACC games that involved Notre Dame. Since ND classifies as an independent, I wanted to keep this study apples-to-apples. If ND were included in the ACC numbers, the number jumps to over 35.

ND's TV ratings for the past ten years

Here are ND's TV ratings for the past ten years (Covid year removed). ND's ratings versus ACC schools are in bold. There are a cluster of them near the bottom.

(Taken from a Big Ten homer on Twitter whose thesis is that playing ACC schools hurts ND's ratings and that those would increase if ND played Big Ten schools instead.)

Here is the link to his tweet: https://twitter.com/Genetics56/status/16...3955528709

13.25MND vs FSU

10.945M ND vs Texas
10.53M ND vs OSU

9.29M ND vs UGA

8.65M NDvs Michigan
8.091MMICH-ND

7.83MND-USC
7.75M ND vs FSU
7.64MNotre Dame vs Clemson
7.31MNotre Dame vs Stanford

6.75M ND vs MICH
6.75M ND vs MICH
6.737M Notre Dame vs Miami
6.68 ND vs USC
6.36 WI vs ND

5.97MNotre Dame vs Temple
5.69M Notre Dame vs USC
5.60M ND vs LOU
5.26M Notre Dame Stanford

4.987M ND vs Michigan State
4.79M Michigan State vs Notre Dame
4.79M Notre Dame vs Purdue
4.73M Michigan vs Notre Dame
4.67M Notre Dame/A rizona State
4.47M ND-VT
4.08M Georgia Notre Dame
4.06M Texas Notre Dame
4.05M Notre Dame/Syracuse

3.95MUSC Notre Dame
3.89MNotre Dame/Navy
3.89M OklahomaNotre Dame
3.84MNotre Dame Pittsburgh
3.80M Cincy vs ND
3.72MNotre Dame N.C. State
3.70M Georgia Tech Notre Dame
3.68MArizona StateNotre Dame
3.46M USCNotre Dame
3.46MNotre Dame Michigan St.
3.46 ND vs NC
3.44MSTAN-ND
3.40MND vs Stanford
3.33M Stanford/Notre Dame
3.29MND-NWSTN
3.22M Clem vs ND
3.27M ND vs VA
3.21M ND vs STAN
3.20MNavy Notre Dame
3.17MFSU-ND
3.16M USC-ND
3.13M Purdue/Notre Dame
3.09M Louisville/Notre Dame
3.03M Notre DamePittsburgh

2.98MUSC Notre Dame
2.96MNorthwestern/Notre Dame
2.95M VT-ND
2.91M Cal vs ND
2.87MStanford Notre Dame
2.87MSYR-ND
2.86 USC vs ND
2.82MPITT-ND
2.82M UVA-Nd
2.74 ND vs Stan
2.63M Navy Notre Dame
2.63M Miami Notre Dame
2,62M N.C. State Notre Dame
2.62MDuke vs ND
2.58 Pur vs ND
2.56M Navy vs Notre Dame
2.53 BYU vs ND
2.50M Temple vs Notre Dame
2.50MNotre Dame UNC
2.48 Marshall vs ND
2.45MBALL-ND
2.45MNevada vs Notre Dame
2.44M ND vs Va. Tech
2.44M ND-Navy
2.43MND-Wake
2.42MNotre Dame vs Navy
2.34M UNC vs ND
2.34M ND vs Syra
2.29M BYUNotre Dame
2.15 Stan vs ND
2.108MVANDY-ND
2.10M Rice/Notre Dame
2.10M Notre Dame vs Syracuse
2.07 ND vs Navy
2.00M Notre Dame/USC

1.98MBoston Col. Notre Dame
1.94MWake Forest Notre Dame
1.96MUMass Notre Dame
1.90MWake Forest Notre Dame
1.86 Navy vs ND
1.779M Notre Dame Boston College
1.580MTemple Notre Dame
1.56M NAVY-ND
1.515MArmy vs Notre Dame
1.50MMiami (Oh.) Notre Dame
1.45 ND vs GA Tech
1.28M BGSU-ND
1.27M BC vs ND
1.11M BC-ND

798K NM-ND

TOO MUCH ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT DEBT?

 

TOO MUCH ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT DEBT?
(...and those without any!)

The wise @KnightAthletics folks have been warning us for years about the crippling rise in debt held by major athletic depts, fueled by a wild arms race in facilities.

Now, in fairness:
There are often… pic.twitter.com/KLQySQ0Y6o

— Tony Altimore (@TJAltimore) May 29, 2023

ACC titles in the nine years under current membership

 

ACC titles in the nine years under current membership:

 

#UVa and FSU 30
UNC 29
N.C. State 27
Notre Dame 24#Hokies and Duke 18
Clemson 17
Syracuse 11
Wake Forest 10
Louisville 8
Miami 6
Pitt and Georgia Tech 5
Boston College 1

— David Teel (@ByDavidTeel) May 29, 2023

Seminole Brooks Koepka notches fifth major win at 2023 PGA Championship

 

Percentage of wins that are majors:

Brooks Koepka — 27%

Jack Nicklaus — 24.6%

Tiger Woods — 18.3%

— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) May 21, 2023

'Noles with wins in the Majors

Brooks - 5
Hubert Green - 2
Paul Azinger -1
Jeff Sluman - 1

— SeminolesGolf (@SeminolesGolf) May 21, 2023

Brooks Koepka has his third PGA Championship victory 🏆 🏆🏆

He becomes the first player since Jack Nicklaus to win the tournament three times in a six-year span 👏 pic.twitter.com/UhEAuUreRl

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) May 21, 2023

Seminole Brooks Koepka notches fifth major win at 2023 PGA Championship

Brooks Koepka is winning again, in a major way. The former Florida State Seminole claimed his fifth career major title at the 2023 PGA Championship on Sunday at Oak Hill Country Club in Rochester, NY. It is also his third PGA Championship title and first major win since 2019. He joins Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods as the only three-time winners of the Wanamaker Trophy.

The Florida State alum spent 2009-2012 with the Florida State golf program. He was a four-year letterman and three-year All-ACC member. He was the 2012 ACC Player of the Year and the Co-Player of the year in 2010. He was also the Freshman of the year in 2009. Florida State Men’s Golf now owns nine Major wins by its Alumni, with Koepka leading the way with five, followed by two from Hubert Green, one from Jeff Sluman and one from Paul Azinger. Of the program’s nine major wins, six have come at the PGA Championship.

FSU ranks 7th in total majors won:

1. Stanford, 25

2. Ohio State, 20

3. Houston, 13

4. Wake Forest, 12

5. Texas, 11

6. Georgia Tech, 10

7. FSU, 9

8. Arizona State, 8

[UF has 4, good enough for 13th most.]

Also, FSU is tied for fourth in number of champions:

1. Houston, 7

2. Texas, 6

3. Wake Forest, 5

4. FSU, Georgia Tech, Stanford, 4

[UF has 3]

🍢 𝗕𝗜𝗚 𝗧𝗜𝗠𝗘 𝗕𝗥𝗢𝗢𝗞𝗦 🍢@BKoepka becomes just the 20th golfer ever to win 5️⃣ Majors! 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 #OneTribe | #GoNoles pic.twitter.com/Mb9IQ49PcI

— FSU Seminoles (@Seminoles) May 21, 2023

2022 FSU Revenue Data (along with UNC, Ohio St, UGA, Clemson)

Great info from ACC Football RX and HokieMark 

2022 FSU Revenue Data

From the Tallahassee Democrat: Florida State athletics profits over $10.3 million in 2022 fiscal year

Here are some insights and observations...

For the 2022 fiscal year, from July 1, 2021-June 30, 2022, the Seminoles listed $161.1 million in operating revenue. The operating expenses for the year was $150.7 million.

2021-22 FSU Operating Revenue	$161.1 million
2021-22 FSU Operating Expenses	$150.7 million

This year, the Seminoles saw a return to normalcy for ticket sales to bring in more revenue, but also a return to normal for travel costs, as well as recruiting costs.

Revenue

Here is a summary of the biggest FSU Athletic Department revenue sources for 2021-22:

Media Rights Fees (TV)	$30.3 million
Other ACC Revenue	$10.7 million
Revenue from Royalties	$24.4 million
Donor Contributions*	$42.3 million
Ticket Sales	$18.8 million
Institution Support	$13.6 million

Comments on Revenue:

1. TV revenue continues to rise rapidly, but not as rapid as in the SEC and the Big Ten.

2. Other ACC Revenue must include NCAA Basketball Tournament distributions, since I don't see anywhere else it might be hiding. CFP base distribution, as well as bowl pool, ACC CG pool, and other shared revenues would also be included here, presumably.

3. The article mentions that donations were down a bit, possibly due to the economic slowdown. (* note: the OP reported $41.7 M in donations, but here I'm using the number from the Knight-Newhouse database instead).

4. On the other hand, Ticket Sales were up, driven by $15.13 million in football ticket sales.

5. The University itself pitched in another $13.6 million (this was negligible in 2021), and reflects a portion of the Federal Higher Education Emergency Relief Funds (HEERF) which was allocated to Athletics.

Expenses

Now for a summary of FSU's primary Athletic Department Expenses for 2021-22:

Coaches' Salaries	$25.6 million
Overhead/Admin	$22.2 million
Sports Team Travel	$9 million
Gameday expenses	$3.5 million
Recruiting expenses	$1.6 million

Comments on Expenses:

1. Coaches, who had taken a pay cut during the pandemic, saw a nice bump in their paychecks.

2. With the end of the pandemic, there was more team travel, gameday expenses, and an increase in recruiting-related expenses.

__________

In addition to the data from 247Sports, I also used the Knight-Newhouse database to confirm some numbers - and to get these additional ones:

• Other (non-ACC) Revenue: $11,376,724
• Competition Guarntees: $607,500
• Student Fees: $8,691,672

Amounts reflect current dollars.

Florida State also had some additional expenses in the Knight-Newhouse database:

• Other Expenses: $34,813,122
• Medical Expenses: $1,812,040
• Competition Guarantees: $2,443,718
• Facilities and Equipment: $38,252,948
• Athletic Student Aid: $10,789,646

That "Competition Guarantees" category presumably is for "buy-a-win" type home games. Of course, "Athletic Student Aid" includes scholarships for football and basketball players, etc.

Comparing 2022 Revenues

How did some of the top-performing football teams from the top 3 conferences compare in terms of 2021-22 revenue? Here you go...

Big Ten vs. SEC vs. ACC Revenues

	Ohio State	Georgia	Clemson
Total Revenue	$251,615,345	$203,048,566	$158,283,618
NCAA and/or Conference Distributions, Media Rights, and Post-Season Football	$71,915,212	$58,622,396	$40,207,257
Donor Contributions	$63,582,228	$74,315,945	$60,859,475
Ticket Sales	$59,649,921	$37,192,353	$31,980,356
Corporate Sponsorship, Advertising, and Licensing	$30,088,073	$20,779,037	$15,904,910
Competition Guarantees	$4,000	$10,000	$22,000
Institutional and/or Government Support	$0	$0	$6,387,497
Student Fees	$0	$3,530,802	$0
Other Revenue	$26,375,911	$8,598,033	$2,922,123

Things we learn from this chart:

1. Money is important, but doesn't guarantee anything. Eventual National Champion Georgia had $50M more revenue than Clemson, but then Ohio State had $50M more than Georgia. Basically, the Buckeyes were as far in front of the Bulldogs as Georgia was in front of Clemson!

2. Conference distributions - which almost always include TV revenue - is the #1 or #2 source of income (the other being donor contributions). Ticket sales are the next biggest income source, followed by sponsorships and licensing. Institutional Support (Clemson) and Student Fees (Georgia) make up most of the rest, except in the Big Ten where there's a mysterious "Other Revenue" category.

3. Clemson doesn't just trail Ohio State and Georgia in TV revenue, but also in donations, ticket sales, and licensing, too - basically, all of the top four. Ideally, Clemson would get more TV money from the ACC while avoiding the direct competition that comes with being a member of the B1G or the SEC. It remains to be seen if this will be an option or not.

__________

Source data:

2022 Ohio State

https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/big-ten/the-ohio-state-university

2022 Georgia

https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/sec/university-of-georgia

2022 Clemson

https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/acc/clemson-university

2022 UNC Revenue Data

From 247Sports - Next Level: The Money Side of UNC Athletics by Greg Barned - here are some insights and observations...

...details from the University of North Carolina's annual financial report to the NCAA for fiscal year 2021-22... which includes data from July 1, 2021, through June 30, 2022, details a record $122.6 million in total operating revenues as well as total operating expenses of $120.3 million. The athletic department’s total operating revenue jumped by $20.7 million year-over-year, marking the 11th time in 12 years that total has increased...

Here are some highlights from the OP:

Media Rights Fees (TV)	$31.50 million
Other ACC Revenue	$6.20 million
NCAA Units Revenue	$4.00 million
Duke's Mayo Bowl Rev.	$1.60 million
TOTAL Conf. Distribution	$43.3 million

That tv revenue number has really gone up, and it isn't all from the ACC Network - although that's probably about $9 - $10 million of it. That said, the T1 is also escalating by a little over $1M/year.

Perhaps even more interesting is the bowl money. It doesn't say bowl share - it lists a specific bowl. Does this mean that the ACC has already implemented "eat what you kill" for bowl games? 

Total Ticket Sales	$30.20 million
MBB Ticket Sales	$16.40 million
Football Tickets	$12.70 million
all other sports tickets	$1.10 million

Obviously, not all ACC schools make that much on basketball  - but some make more on football. 

Donor Contributions	$20.62 million*
Royalties, Licensing, Ads, and Sponsorships	$12.80 million

two sources had a small discrepancy on donations. All other numbers were corroborated. 

Coaches salaries, etc.	$21.40 million
Severance payments	$3.20 million
FB-related comp.	$10.90 million

Larry Fedora is the severance pay here. Football-related compensation is about half of the total.

Athletic Student Aid	$13.70 million
Athletic Team Travel	$10.50 million
Sports equip/supplies	$4.40 million
Game day expenses	$4.90 million
Recruiting expenses	$2.50 million
Direct overhead/admin	$11.00 million
Other Operating Exp.	$7.70 million

Nothing all that interesting about these expenses.

UNC Football total revenue	$56,631,600
UNC Basketall total revenue	$32,234,012

The ACC as a whole is said to be 75 to 80% football in terms of revenue, but UNC is more like 64/36%.

Athletic-related Debt	$108.90 million
Athletic Endowments	$496.10 million

Wouldn't every ACC school like to have an AD Endowment that large or larger?

__________

In addition to the data from 247Sports, I also used the Knight-Newhouse database to confirm some numbers - and to get these additional ones:

• Other Revenue: $5,544,455
• Competition Guaramtees: $562,565
• Institutional/Government Support: $1,738,279
• Student Fees: $7,864,743

Amounts reflect current dollars.

Doak Renovation Pics

 These may not be final drawings

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/whats-the-latest-with-doak-expansion.856562/page-5#post-14592252

Excitement building! FSU football sees significant rise in season ticket sales

 

Excitement building! FSU football sees significant rise in season ticket sales

FSU's overall renewal rate of 92% is the second highest since the 95% renewal rate in 2014

Florida State football fans are excited about the program's future.

Four months after watching their Seminoles clinch their first 10-win season since 2016, fans have purchased more than 31,000 season tickets for 2023.

That includes renewals and more than 4,000 new season tickets.

It also represents an increase of nearly 3,000 season tickets sold (28,750) last season.

Momentum is expected to continue with the start of college football still four months away.

"We have seen a huge increase in demand for season tickets for the upcoming 2023 season," Jack Chatham, assistant athletics director of Ticket Operations and Service, told the Democrat.

"As of now we have sold 31,118 season tickets overall. This represents a 92% renewal rate in the main seating bowl and a 95% renewal rate in the Dunlap Champions Club. Of note, we have sold more season tickets in the main bowl than in the previous year for the first time since 2014.”

FSU, which held its Spring Showcase April 15, opens its season against LSU in Orlando Sept. 3 on national television.

Breaking down season-ticket renewals and sales

FSU's current season-ticket sales breakdown of 31,118 features:

25,282 in the stadium's main bowl;

3,037 in the Dunlap Champions Club;

199 in Section 120 (south end zone)

2,600 (including internal needs) in stadium suites.

FSU's overall renewal rate of 92% is the second highest since the 95% renewal rate in 2014 following the program's national championship season under Jimbo Fisher.

Seminole Boosters, Inc., closed its priority deadline for members to renew their season tickets and parking passes April 18. However, season tickets/parking passes for 2023 remain on sale.

FSU sold close to 35,000 season tickets for coach Willie Taggart's debut in 2018.

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/season-ticket-sales-numbers.943996/

As of the deadline last week for season ticket renewal we finished with 30,500 total season tickets sold, approximately 26,500 renewal and 4,000 new season tickets sold for a 93% renewal rate. Since 2009 this is our 2nd highest renewal rate, 1st was 2014 season at 95% (coming off national championship, preseason #1, Notre Dame on schedule). 3rd highest was 2011 at 91% with Oklahoma on schedule.

The 30,500 sold is 2,000 sold over all of last year and its only April.

Academic Rankings Update

 

Tied for #55: Florida State University

Tallahassee, FLFall '21 enrollment: 33,593Tuition: $21,683 out-of-state, $6,517 in-state2022 rankings: #55 in National Universities (tie), #19 in Top Public Schools, #67 in Best Value Schools

Florida retains top nationwide higher education ranking for seventh consecutive year

For the seventh consecutive year, Florida has secured the top spot in the U.S. News & World Report’s nationwide higher education rankings, having topped the publication’s list each year since its inception in 2017.

U.S. News & World Report factored in several metrics, including the length of time students take on average to finish their programs (both two- and four-year), the expenses associated with in-state tuition and fees, and student debt carried by alumni.

Florida improved on two of the five metrics compared to the year prior: four-year graduation rate and educational attainment.

Earlier this year, the State University System reported a 12 percent five-year increase in graduation rates alongside a 49 percent year-over-year drop in the overall cost of earning a bachelor’s degree. For the 2022-23 academic year, average in-state tuition costs at Florida universities are the lowest in the nation, according to state data — nearly $5,000 cheaper than the national average of $11,103.

Additional state data shows that 75 percent of resident undergraduate students graduated without student loans in the 2020-21 academic year, an uptick from 69 percent the previous year.

“Florida has long been a national leader in higher education, and retaining this number one ranking proves the Florida way is working,” said Brian Lamb, chair of the Board of Governors, which oversees the State University System. “By prioritizing student success, with an emphasis on providing all students a high-quality, low-cost education, Florida’s universities are leaning in to produce top-tier talent to meet workforce needs, increase research capabilities, and retain the best and brightest faculty whose excellence and expertise provide the platform from which we create the future.”

Moreover, once financial aid is applied, the State University System reports that the average cost of a degree is $1,550. The figure is a nearly 50 percent decrease compared to the year prior, and $12,210 lower in cost than the same statistic from the 2016-17 academic year.

Total research expenditure across the system’s twelve universities eclipsed $2.2 billion during the most recent academic year, with the University of Florida surpassing $1 billion in research spending for the first time.

Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University also posted a record high in research and development funding, continuing its push for Carnegie R-1 status. The university reported $59.3 million in such funding and $75.5 million in total awards, according to the National Science Foundation.

As of 2023, six state universities — Florida State University, the University of Florida, the University of Miami, the University of Central Florida, the University of South Florida, and Florida International University — have reached R1 distinction, which denotes a “very high level of research activity.”

Florida ranked 14th for K-12 education, placing in the upper half of states for high school graduation rate (9th), preschool enrollment (12th), college readiness (15th), and National Assessment of Educational Progress reading scores (21st).