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"So the ACC will remain quite stable for the reasons I put forth, but you aren't going to grow your revenue base unless you make some key additions. So the words that aptly describe the ACC's situation is Stable but Stagnant if you don't grow. "
"At this juncture it's not about the assemblage of football powerhouses, but in just 10 short years you'll be seeing just how much it is about survival. Clemson and F.S.U. would have had ample success these past 10 years in the SEC East. And the revenue difference is not just a little bit of money, nor is it just TV revenue. The difference in gross revenue last year between the SEC and ACC (on average) was 30 million in a year, and yes the gap widened. "
"Mark, it's an interesting development the way ESPN has helped to grow the ACC. They couldn't work around Tobacco Road for the greater good in 2010. But they have grown smaller groups that alone didn't threaten Chapel Hill power. With the football first schools in the South, and the Old Big East Schools in the North and Louisville as the wild card, Chapel Hill still thinks they are in control. Right now they have veto power if Clemson votes with them which is why X is always insisting that Clemson is part of the old core. They are in fact, but not necessarily in function. And they never had kindred spirits to side with before the entrance of F.S.U.. So with Georgia Tech's financial woes and football first proclivities and Miami realizing that their concerns can only be addressed in conjunction with the other Southern football first schools, but having ties to the Old Big East coalitions can be formed. But as long as the ACC doesn't grow beyond 16 and as long as Chapel Hill is part of the 6 school voting block, the 3/4's needed to pass changes can be stonewalled. Now if Va Tech and Clemson would cast lots with the others consistently and should a 16th, 17th, and 18th be added, then Chapel Hill simply becomes another vote and will be forced to work with the larger group.
This is why X is also so fond of 15 team scenarios. It's not enough to break their hold on the ACC.
But if the ACCN and the conference as a whole is to be healthy, and if adding Texas with a division would accomplish these ends, then the old core block needs to acquiesce. By adding Texas & enough friends to form a division which is more local for them, not only does the ACC, cobbled together as it is, get wealthier and healthier, but you also instantly become democratic. And that is the only way you'll ever hold the ego's of Notre Dame, North Carolina, and Texas in peace under 1 roof.
It's control by the old ACC core that has kept your conference in 5th place economically, just like it has been Texas that has kept its serfs in the field while they live in the Big House by refusing to grow the Big 12 beyond their own control.
What posters don't want to admit is that Alabama, Florida, Michigan and Ohio State have quietly surrendered their former roles for the greater good and they are all much richer for it. "
"You can look up the 2016-7 returns on Equity in Athletic now. They've been out for a few months. But I have them broken down by conference and posted in the important threads section on the SEC board. The Gross Total Revenue Average's are posted there as well and last year the average GTR for the SEC was around $127 million plus. The average for the ACC (which was last of the P5) was $92 million plus.
SEC: $127,970,791
B1G: $114,956,943
B12: $107,930,999
P12: $97,706,741
ACC: $92,859,954
It was the best year for the ACC since I started tracking the totals about 7 years ago. The PAC 12 made up the most ground year over year. "
This is why X is also so fond of 15 team scenarios. It's not enough to break their hold on the ACC.
But if the ACCN and the conference as a whole is to be healthy, and if adding Texas with a division would accomplish these ends, then the old core block needs to acquiesce. By adding Texas & enough friends to form a division which is more local for them, not only does the ACC, cobbled together as it is, get wealthier and healthier, but you also instantly become democratic. And that is the only way you'll ever hold the ego's of Notre Dame, North Carolina, and Texas in peace under 1 roof.
It's control by the old ACC core that has kept your conference in 5th place economically, just like it has been Texas that has kept its serfs in the field while they live in the Big House by refusing to grow the Big 12 beyond their own control.
What posters don't want to admit is that Alabama, Florida, Michigan and Ohio State have quietly surrendered their former roles for the greater good and they are all much richer for it. "
"You can look up the 2016-7 returns on Equity in Athletic now. They've been out for a few months. But I have them broken down by conference and posted in the important threads section on the SEC board. The Gross Total Revenue Average's are posted there as well and last year the average GTR for the SEC was around $127 million plus. The average for the ACC (which was last of the P5) was $92 million plus.
SEC: $127,970,791
B1G: $114,956,943
B12: $107,930,999
P12: $97,706,741
ACC: $92,859,954
It was the best year for the ACC since I started tracking the totals about 7 years ago. The PAC 12 made up the most ground year over year. "
IMO, the sooner the rest of the ACC can wrestle control away from UNC, the better.
ReplyDeleteJR's theory that UNC and Texas are examples of dominate schools in conferences that prefer more control vs more democratic conference AND more $$$$.
DeleteHe has a point.