CMUP's Top American Research Universities latest report is out....and the ACC sucks part 23421899898

CMUP's Top American Research Universities latest report is out

"This is the report that academia itself looks at more than many others.

For the first time ever, they've crafted a power ranking of the top 137 research universities.

Remember, this is overall institution, with a strong weight toward graduate education and research, but also with some undergrad components. Many rankings just look at either research or undergrad, not both. In this report, size of a school's graduate education programs is an advantage.

ACC schools...
13. Duke
19. UNC
22. Pitt
33. Georgia Tech
38. UVA
49. NC State
51. Notre Dame
52. Virginia Tech
59. Miami
70. FSU
91. Louisville
100. Clemson
119. Wake Forest
> 137: Syracuse, BC

http://mup.asu.edu/Top-American-Research...-02-13.pdf


"Top 25 Research Schools that are in the major athletic conferences:
Big 10 - 5
Pac 12 - 5
ACC - 3
Big 12 - 1
SEC - 1 (thanks to Texas A&M joining them. But they are barely ranked at 24)

And in number 26-50 the bottom two conferences fall even further behind. "


"If you look at the top 50, the B10 has 12, the P12 has 8, the ACC has 6, the SEC 3, and the B12 just 1.

This lowest ranked AAU member in a conference is Kansas at 77. The highest ranked schools not in AAU are:

49 - NC State
51 - ND
52 - VT
53 - Cincy
57 - UGa
59 - Miami

I don't know how the Kanas review is going as I recall they were about to be bounced out of AAU. Now, AAU is a political, club organization so as you look at the 6 highest ranked graduate/research program it makes you wonder who is tossing the blackball against their admission (you need 75% of votes to gain admission - 48 positive votes.

With NC State, they were competing at the same time with GT and Cincy. Southern schools tend to be passed over and NC State's liberal arts are not well known versus their STEM aspects. I heard the blackball could have come from MD or Duke and that NC State missed by one vote.

With ND, you have the religious aspect to discriminate against, plus some B10 anti-votes - enough to keep them out.

With VT, you have a little brother to UVa, that is STEM oriented just like NC State. Would UVa really support them? I know MD would not.

Cincy is a strange case, I suspect that if Ohio State and Indiana made it known to the rest of the Big 10 they didn't want Cincy in the AAU, that would stick.

Georgia is an SEC school - almost the kiss of death for AAU's northern bent.

Miami would probably be blackballed by Florida and begins to be far enough away from the others to omit.

I would suggest that once you get past about 90, you out of the graduate/research universities and into the universities that focus most of their resources on undergrads. "



"Vt is concerned about lack of aau support from uva duke unc and gt- believe it or not they got much more support from md penn state mich Purdue -

Vt feels if you are in s confrrence there should be collaboration - and it should be connected - noticed number of big ten schools vt is playing "